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This episode addresses a subject that’s high of thoughts for lots of people proper now. I’ve heard from quite a lot of you guys about stress cravings, weight acquire, and simply how troublesome it’s to navigate wholesome meals decisions proper now with the entire extra stress on the planet. And I’m right here with Brittany Watkins, who I’ve interviewed earlier than, however needed to deliver again particularly for this matter. She is an internationally acknowledged speaker, writer, and coach. And he or she has applications particular to this very topic, with issues like emotional consuming, meals cravings, and self-sabotage. In truth, she’s one of many high specialists on the planet on utilizing one thing referred to as Emotional Freedom Approach for addressing emotional consuming and weight reduction. And we go into that on this episode. However we additionally speak about what I feel is a extremely vital distinction right here that quite a lot of you guys introduced up on a current weblog submit.

So I shared in podcast Episode 309, should you’re fascinated about listening, my very own trauma restoration story, and the way that ultimately led to a fairly huge weight reduction as a aspect impact. The vital factor there may be that the burden loss was a aspect impact of the interior work and the interior well being. And it was primarily a mirrored image of that. I acquired so many follow-up questions on what I particularly did or was consuming or how I used to be exercising, that I wrote a weblog submit to deal with that aspect as effectively, tackle extra of the bodily features of weight reduction. And the rationale I did that’s I do know once I was nonetheless in that mindset and scuffling with weight myself, that’s what I used to be searching for. I believed I used to be looking for solutions on the best way to drop some pounds. So I did it to reply all these questions, write a submit centered on the bodily aspect of that. However I don’t need that to be construed as I feel that weight reduction is the purpose as a result of like I mentioned, for me, whereas I believed weight reduction was the purpose, and it was my focus for therefore a few years, it was really a aspect impact of coping with the interior mindset aspect, that ended up being way more vital. And I very a lot do suppose that folks could be wholesome at a wide range of sizes. I feel that’s a really nuanced matter. And there’s quite a lot of confounding elements there. However I don’t suppose folks have to essentially be a sure dimension or a sure weight to be immediately wholesome. However I can say definitively, for me, that I’m really bodily measurably more healthy on labs, that my Hashimoto’s is in remission, and that each one of my markers are in a more healthy vary now. Additionally, once more, not most likely due to the burden loss, however most likely additionally as a aspect impact of doing the interior work, similar to the burden loss was a aspect impact. So I needed to deliver up that matter. We go in deeper on that on this episode as effectively. I feel you’ll discover this actually fascinating, particularly should you’ve struggled with possibly cravings or stress consuming, understandably, during the last 9 months. And we speak about how whereas this hasn’t been an excellent 12 months in some ways, it has been an unbelievable trainer, and the way we are able to use it to our benefit to be taught and to enhance internally. So, with out additional ado, let’s be part of Brittany. Brittany, welcome again to the podcast.

Brittany: Hello, thanks for having me.

Katie: So we’ve already finished one episode collectively, I’ll ensure that’s linked at wellnessmama.fm. In the event you guys are assembly Brittany for the primary time as we speak, that’s an important place to begin as effectively. However I’d like to recap a few of that and likewise possibly go slightly deeper on a few of these factors that we touched on final time, realizing there’s gonna be some particular issues associated to the entire stressors particular to this 12 months. However, to begin broad, are you able to type of stroll us by how trauma can present up on the physique as additional weight and doubtlessly as different issues as effectively? As a result of I’ve shared this publicly, I’ve misplaced about 80 kilos within the final couple of years, and quite a lot of it went again to coping with trauma for me, and lots of people have requested observe up questions associated to that. And I do know we touched on this slightly bit in our first podcast, however I’d love to have the ability to go deeper and to supply some deep solutions on that.

Brittany: Yeah, effectively, that was one of many greatest lacking hyperlinks for me. I imply, I’ve struggled with my very own weight points and emotional consuming problems for a very long time. And, you recognize, when folks have been making an attempt to cope with it even, you recognize, from the highest down with weight loss plan and train, however even a few of the esoteric stuff like mindset work and optimistic affirmations, it simply by no means went deep sufficient for me. And it wasn’t till I found trauma work and the best way to apply tapping, which is the strategy that I educate, particularly to trauma round weight points, that was once I was in a position to launch weight.

So, you recognize, yeah, trauma is only one of this stuff that we wouldn’t suppose can present up as additional weight in our physique. However, for example, I got here up with this, you recognize, kind of less complicated manner for folks to know how trauma impacts our our bodies by calling them weight reduction blockers. So I found that there are seven essential weight reduction blockers, that after we expertise a specific type of trauma, it would mainly make our physique wish to be fats. It’ll make our physique wish to maintain on to additional weight as a result of subconsciously, it thinks that it’s defending us by placing the additional weight on. So, like, for instance, you recognize, in case your mother and father while you have been a child used to yell at you or used to make you sit on the dinner desk till all of your meals was eaten off your plate, that can provide your mind a unconscious message that it’s important to eat all of the meals in your plate in an effort to make them comfortable.

So subconsciously, what you’ll do is, you’ll have nervousness about throwing meals away, otherwise you’ll really feel harassed, otherwise you’ll really feel responsible, otherwise you’ll really feel ashamed any time you permit meals in your plate and you recognize it’s gonna be thrown away as a result of subconsciously, your mother and father mainly, or whoever was telling you this, created a trauma. I imply, traumas can large and it may be small. So mainly what occurs is that created a trauma loop in your mind, that each time you’re in that individual scenario, you’re feeling dangerous and your mind is getting really the fallacious message, nevertheless it’s the best way that your mind was coded to eat extra meals than your physique really wants.

So, yeah, I imply, it took me most likely 15 years to determine all 7 of the weight-loss blockers and I’m even discovering new ones now. However it’s an actual factor. And, you recognize, folks wrestle with additional weight for a extremely, actually very long time. And, you recognize, what I discover is that they’re going about it within the fallacious manner, they’re not addressing the trauma, and particularly coping with it in, you recognize, a specific manner, which is the best way that we do it in our remedy.

Katie: Yeah, and I wanna go into the specifics of that slightly bit extra. However one factor additionally I really feel prefer it’s vital to say at this level within the dialog, I shared a submit on Instagram just lately in regards to the dietary and bodily aspect of issues I did for weight reduction. And the title of that submit was, “How one can drop some pounds,” mainly what labored for me. And I really took some warmth, which is comprehensible, from some individuals who mentioned, you recognize, “You shouldn’t concentrate on the burden loss,” which I really very a lot agree with. However this was a hard-learned lesson for me. And the rationale I needed to deliver this up is, I had finished a podcast, Episode 309, lengthy earlier than that submit, that talked in regards to the trauma aspect, and the mindset aspect, and the entire interior work I needed to do to maneuver previous that.

And what I realized by that course of was that I believed weight reduction was the main target. And it seems, dropping the burden was merely a aspect impact of studying to be at peace on the within. And so I don’t ever wanna overlook that time. It’s so, so core and so key to I feel the entire dialog. However, that mentioned, as soon as I had handled the interior aspect, these modifications considerably occurred naturally in my life, however I did simply inadvertently change some weight loss plan and way of life elements. And other people needed to know these specifics as effectively, which is why I shared them. So, I simply needed to talk to the purpose. And I do know you speak about this as effectively. It’s not that reducing weight is the tip all be all or that we shouldn’t love and settle for ourselves at any dimension.

That’s definitely isn’t what I’m making an attempt to say. I realized, like I discussed, definitely, that weight reduction was the aspect impact. However I additionally know, trying again, once I was scuffling with that, and earlier than I understood the interior trauma connection, I used to be searching for issues like the best way to drop some pounds. So I needed to have the ability to meet folks the place they have been in order that I might begin the dialog about, you recognize, the well being aspect and the weight loss plan aspect is vital, nevertheless it’s not the place it begins. It’s a must to begin inside. So I simply wanna deliver that up. I’m positive you run into the physique positivity, physique neutrality factor very often most likely within the work that you simply do, proper?

Brittany: Yeah. I imply, that’s one of many issues that’s so fascinating about my work is that, you recognize, when folks are available, they’ve this purpose that they wanna drop some pounds, we don’t speak about weight loss plan or vitamin or we barely even speak about train. We don’t speak about any of that stuff. It’s mainly like going by intensive remedy. ? It’s centered on some food-related issues, however quite a lot of it’s not associated to meals in any respect. , we talked about this on the final episode the place when girls have been, their physique boundaries have been violated, which mainly is any person making them really feel uncomfortable sexually. It may very well be small or large. That’s one of many greatest causes that folks will placed on additional weight.

No person would suppose…Logically, folks wouldn’t suppose that it has something to do with holding on to additional weight. However, yeah, it does. So, yeah, I imply, I agree with you to get again to the purpose of getting it not be about weight reduction. Clearly, I do have an organization that helps folks launch weight, and that’s the best way that we are saying it, and truly launch fats not weight as a result of most cancers sufferers launch weight or drop some pounds, we wanna launch fat, proper? In the event you wanna really change your physique. However as soon as they arrive in and so they begin doing the work, we don’t even speak about weight reduction. That’s the very last thing that we speak about. After which, much like your story, to what you simply mentioned, as soon as they undergo the intensive work and so they do all of the therapeutic work on themselves. I all the time inform them, “Hear, on the finish of this…” , that’s all the time everybody’s subsequent query is, “Okay, what ought to I eat? What weight loss plan ought to I observe?”

And I all the time say, “Hear, while you get to the tip of it, you’re really gonna have a a lot better relationship along with your physique.” And intuitively, you’re most likely simply gonna begin to observe a more healthy consuming plan and also you’re simply gonna be interested in consuming more healthy meals. That’s the pure manner the physique does it. When you give the physique the message, “Hey, I don’t want this additional fats on my physique. We’re secure now. We’re not at risk. We’re at peace now.” You’ve processed all this stuff that have been making your physique suppose that it wanted to carry on to this additional weight, the physique goes, “Oh, okay, cool.” And so it simply says, “Okay, I don’t want that cookie at dinner. I can select salad as an alternative of pasta,” you recognize. And it’s only a pure course of.

And so, you recognize, pure weight reduction, I do know it seems like, urgh. Once I was going by my wrestle, if any person instructed me that they misplaced weight naturally, I’d wanna kill them. So, you recognize, I understand how annoying that time period could be, nevertheless it actually could be when you course of the interior turmoil mainly that is occurring subconsciously. This isn’t stuff that individuals are conscious of. However, you recognize, while you’re scuffling with consuming problems or additional weight and also you’ve tried different issues, and so they haven’t labored, often, you recognize, the reason for it’s this kind of, you recognize, underlying turmoil that we’re not programmed in our society to essentially take a look at.

Katie: Yeah, like I mentioned, I feel I ignored that or resisted that concept for lots of years. And through these years, I attempted to, like weight reduction was a battle that I felt like I used to be preventing, and I felt like I used to be continually making an attempt to punish myself or to, like, drive my will to have an iron will and select solely the healthiest issues. And that shift was so unbelievable and so noticeable. As soon as I handled that, to start with, I used to be a lot much less harassed. I didn’t even notice how a lot psychological vitality was going to that battle every day. However, such as you mentioned, there was no extra combat when it got here to selecting wholesome meals or if I wasn’t hungry, and my physique simply didn’t need meals. And if I had tried to eat once I wasn’t hungry, my physique would have simply mentioned no. And I used to be in a position to pay attention so a lot better to my physique. So I wasn’t preventing it. And I felt like, for the primary time I used to be working with my physique and never towards it, and the method simply grew to become a lot simpler. I do know we talked about it slightly bit within the final episode. However, on that observe, what are a few of the methods we are able to begin to overcome trauma? As a result of I do know I’ve shared my story in items on the podcast earlier than, however it may look like an amazing hurdle to overcome or proceed like one thing that’s gonna take a extremely very long time. And the great thing about it’s that neither of these issues must be true. However stroll us by how we are able to begin to unravel and overcome that trauma course of.

Brittany: Okay. So, my historical past is that I struggled with emotional consuming so much. Ranging from the time I used to be 15, I acquired kicked out of my home. I used to be homeless. I grew up in a really non secular household, who mainly forged me out. So there was clearly quite a lot of trauma there and quite a lot of trauma even earlier than that. So, my emotional consuming began then. I used to be actually, actually, actually fortunate although to discover a therapist who taught me the best way to use a way referred to as EFT, Emotional Freedom Methods or tapping. So I used tapping in remedy to cope with all of my emotional points that I used to be scuffling with. So, you recognize, I didn’t give it some thought for my weight points at that time. And I feel, you recognize, my weight was type of or my cravings had simply began at that time, so I didn’t actually, you recognize, know if I had a weight drawback but.

I began utilizing tapping, you recognize, simply to assist cope with every little thing that occurred with my household, to assist love myself higher, to not be so indignant about every little thing that occurred. And, over time, what ended up taking place was, I discovered that the common EFT, so EFT is a nine-point system that mainly anyone can do to themselves any time they’ve a demanding feeling or they really feel anxious. So it’s an incredible approach. I adore it a lot. I’m so obsessed with it, that’s why I speak about it, and I’ve an entire enterprise round it. So, I like when individuals are empowered to heal themselves within the second and so they don’t want to attend for a therapist or they don’t have to, you recognize, look outdoors of them for the reply. In order that’s why I like, you recognize, common EFT.

However what I discovered once I was coping with my weight wrestle is that the common EFT technique that they have been educating us didn’t work for my weight points. And so over…Oh my gosh, it was a giant, large wrestle. In the future whereas I used to be actually scuffling with this chocolate bar, I keep in mind I knew that I used to be…, I’d reached the purpose, you recognize, most individuals which can be listening to this podcast, you’ve reached the purpose the place I name consciously incompetent, which is, you recognize that you simply’re consuming while you’re probably not hungry, you simply don’t know the best way to cease it.

So, I used to be at that time the place I knew that I used to be consuming, I knew that I wasn’t actually hungry, and I had this chocolate bar in entrance of me, and I used to be simply telling myself, “Man, I don’t wanna eat it. I don’t wanna eat this,” you recognize. However I actually needed to do it on the identical time, and we’ve all had these moments. So I keep in mind in that second, and this was, you recognize, the billionth time I’d had a combat with meals. And I keep in mind, in that second, I heard a voice. And the voice began giving me directions. And it mentioned, “Push the chocolate bar away.” And I pushed it away. And it mentioned, “Okay, sit again, begin tapping on these factors.” I mentioned okay. After which it requested me or I simply heard these collection of questions. And I went by these collection of questions. And after about 10 minutes, I appeared down on the chocolate bar, and I didn’t need it anymore.

Mainly what occurred was, it was a mix of tapping and regression remedy, NLP, shamanic soul retrieval, which have been all strategies that I had been finding out for years and years to attempt to get to the reply, to attempt to get to the foundation explanation for what was causing me overeat. And mainly, on this second, you recognize, my greater self, my angels, who is aware of what it was, or, you recognize, possibly my mind, put the entire info that I had realized collectively into this one approach. And I discovered with this one explicit approach, I might, in that second, each time I needed to eat, and I knew I wasn’t actually hungry, I might push the meals away, do that course of and never really feel disadvantaged anymore.

And mainly, what I observed taking place is that each time I needed to eat, the method, mainly one of many questions is, okay, push the meals away from you, sit again, shut your eyes, float again in time, and inform me how outdated you might be. And it’s important to reply actually rapidly. I’ll simply type of inform you the questions as a result of I feel folks will probably be fascinated about them. So sit again and return in time and inform me how outdated you might be. And what I discovered was that with each emotional urge I had, it was related to a traumatic expertise that I had had up to now. And it was often from 0 to, you recognize, about 10 or 12 years outdated. Most of them have been between 0 and eight, which is when your unconscious thoughts, mainly, you’re working unconsciously, you don’t have the need to resolve sure or no about issues.

So it was all the time going again to a particular occasion. And often, the occasions have been little, you recognize. I keep in mind one time going again to an occasion the place any person dropped a glass on the ground, and it broke, and it startled me. A few of it was, you recognize, when my mother and father have been yelling at me, or once I acquired punished for doing one thing dangerous, or, you recognize, any person’s saying one thing to me on the playground. And so what I discovered was that the meals and the compulsion for meals, the best way that I used to be asking the questions was really taking me to the traumas that wanted to be healed in my mind. After which once I utilized this technique, once I acquired to this particular trauma, inside 10 minutes, I had healed that trauma and often two others. Normally, there’s three traumas connected, which don’t take an entire lot of time to heal. As soon as I’d heal these traumas, inside about 10 minutes, while you return and also you take a look at the meals, the need for the meals is gone.

So I all the time inform folks, you recognize, when you’ve got an emotional consuming dysfunction otherwise you’re scuffling with meals, the meals is definitely making an attempt to indicate you, the meals will present you what must be healed so as so that you can cease this drawback, after which really, so as so that you can step into your energy and to be the person who you’re meant to be on this planet. I really consider that. I imply, I’ve been doing this work professionally now for 10 years. I’ve been doing it on myself for 20. And, you recognize, I’ve completely discovered that when I’ve healed my relationship with meals, it has made me a extra empowered, stronger, happier, you recognize, extra confident particular person simply in each space of my life. And my college students all the time attest to that as effectively. Does that make sense? Did I clarify that okay?

Katie: It does. And I feel the vital key that I discovered and wanna spotlight there may be, these don’t must be main life-changing moments that you simply keep in mind that have been by some means, like, stunning or, you recognize, one thing in your childhood. I definitely had one occasion from my highschool years that completely was that type of trauma. However I additionally discovered many situations from a lot earlier in childhood, to your level, that appear insignificant or appear very small. However in that youngster state, like, these issues actually caught with me, and I didn’t even notice how deeply, such as you have been saying, till I began doing that interior work and was stunned to search out, wow, this one remark {that a} relative made at that party caught with me and made me really feel shameful about consuming sure meals for my complete life. And I didn’t even consciously know that.

And so, I feel the great thing about it’s realizing there’s most likely this stuff that will not be belongings you consciously keep in mind proper now or that you concentrate on usually, which can be influencing your each day habits. And the great thing about that’s, such as you mentioned, when you will have meals because the set off, you get the prospect to take a look at these issues and to be taught from them. For folks listening, quite a lot of us are mothers, and I do know my thoughts additionally goes to that time of realizing, okay, I most likely have inadvertently finished some issues with my youngsters which can be going to go away them with issues they’re gonna work by as adults. As a lot as I hope that’s not the case, the chance is nice. What are some ways in which we are able to, hopefully, with our youngsters, begin from the start to have a wholesome relationship with meals or keep away from a few of possibly the extra widespread pitfalls?

Brittany: Yeah, it is a actually widespread query. I imply, one of the best one, clearly, is to be a superb mannequin for them. Proper? So, you recognize, you having a wholesome relationship with meals, your youngsters, even should you disguise the truth that you’re overeating, you recognize, meals at evening, like should you put the children…In the event you eat like a standard particular person all day lengthy, after which the children go to mattress, and also you’re like, “Oh, lastly, it’s time for me,” and also you go to the cabinets, and that’s while you, you recognize, go loopy on the meals, your youngsters subconsciously choose that up. Children are so sensible and so they’re being programmed along with your behaviors.

So, whether or not you prefer it or not, the best way you might be with your self is you’re transmitting that to them. So that they’re studying the best way to be folks by watching you, each consciously and unconsciously. They’re in a state of trance. From 0 to eight years outdated, they’re in a state of trance. So, which means they’re choosing up on issues which can be simply floating round that aren’t even mentioned. They’re choosing up on patterns and behaviors that possibly you’re not even exhibiting them. I’ve had some purchasers inform me up to now, you recognize, after we undergo this course of, folks get into like a, you recognize, kind of hypnotic state, and they’re going to return and keep in mind that their mother and father or one in all their mother and father was dishonest on the opposite father or mother, however that wasn’t one thing that they knew consciously of their childhood.

So, youngsters simply choose up issues with out you, you recognize, even should you suppose you’re doing a superb job of hiding it, you’re not. So, clearly, you recognize, coping with a relationship with your self is the very, best possible manner. , after which, you recognize, not pushing meals. I do know some youngsters are actually choosy about, you recognize, their meals. However, what I discover with youngsters is that children are often very intuitive, and possibly they don’t wanna eat their greens once they’re little. And, you recognize, for my part, I feel that’s okay as a result of I actually do really feel that youngsters know what their physique wants and what their physique needs. Kids are rising so much. So if they need quite a lot of like carbs or one thing like that once they’re a child, that’s serving to them develop, that’s serving to them create vitality that’s, you recognize, serving to their our bodies develop into the human that they’re changing into. So, you recognize, I don’t wanna throw anyone off as a result of everyone has their very own solution to cope with meals and their youngsters. However, you recognize, I simply all the time say to belief your youngsters and to belief what they like, and what they don’t like, and to allow them to eat to their satisfaction.

Katie: Utterly aligned with you on that one. My thought has all the time been, I hold nutrient-dense meals in the home, all types of various meals as a result of clearly I wish to concentrate on micronutrients and ensuring they’re nourished, however I don’t ever drive any particular meals or make them end the meals on their plate. And so they have entry to, each time they’re hungry, sources of wholesome carbs, and proteins, and fat. And that’s been part of my shift. And I’m making an attempt very arduous to make that shift with my youngsters. And the way I discuss meals is there’s by no means meals which can be good or dangerous. I don’t ever attempt to speak about depriving of sure meals, but additionally meals are treats. And we speak about meals being a gas and our our bodies being these wonderful instruments that we are able to do unbelievable issues and ensuring that we gas.

As a result of I additionally discovered, a part of my journey, I ended up consuming really extra as soon as I handled the trauma. I spotted I had been type of power weight-reduction plan and undereating for therefore lengthy. And as soon as I fastened that, I discovered myself needing extra protein, for example, and I had gotten much more lively, and I wanted extra energy. And that has been one thing I’d have been terrified to eat extra meals earlier than I handled it. And now I view it as I’m fueling my physique to do all these actions I would like it to do. And I’m hoping that, you recognize, comes throughout to my youngsters. However I like that time of youngsters are so intuitive. And if they’ve fixed entry to nourishing meals, they’ll naturally eat what they want.

That doesn’t imply we should always have, you recognize, junk meals accessible in any respect hours of the day. However, to that time, with no meals being good or dangerous, I don’t attempt to management what my youngsters eat outdoors of my dwelling. I view it as my duty is to supply nutrient-dense meals in our dwelling, and their job as they become old is to navigate their relationship with meals in a wholesome manner. So even when they’re going to a buddy’s home or a party, I don’t ever attempt to inform them to not have the cake or inform them how they need to make these meals decisions as a result of I really feel like they’re gonna really be taught that. And so they know in the event that they don’t really feel excellent in the event that they eat one thing they’re not used to consuming, that’s an important trainer for them. I don’t must create that disgrace cycle with meals for them.

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Katie: I really feel like one other factor proper now that definitely I’m listening to from folks about it, I’m guessing you might be listening to way more so is the entire stress-related cravings that include all of the loopy occasions of this previous 12 months. And, on a private degree, I do know the primary two weeks of lockdown in our space, I acquired all these fantastic triggers that have been lecturers as a result of I used to be indignant, like, viscerally indignant and needed to, like, punch partitions. I wasn’t hungry. I needed to work out on a regular basis. And so I spent a number of days going, “What on earth is occurring with me? Why am I indignant? What what’s inflicting this?” And I spotted, a part of that went again to my larger trauma from highschool and vowing in that second that I’d by no means really feel helpless once more. And I had made all these wonderful constructs in my life in order that I by no means needed to really feel helpless, and I had techniques, and I managed all of the variables. After which this factor occurred that was larger than me that I couldn’t management. And I felt like, metaphorically like I used to be being held down another time. And so, my psyche was reacting by wanting to only come up swinging.

And so, it was really an important alternative to type of face that and work by it. However I feel quite a lot of us had our personal experiences with the entire stress that comes with a large life change like that that’s occurred in so many locations. So, what are some instruments…Effectively, to start with, what’s inflicting quite a lot of these elevated cravings? As a result of we hear the joke in regards to the COVID 19, and other people gaining weight, and all these cravings and there’s memes about that on a regular basis, and ingesting margaritas for breakfast, and cupcakes at the moment are a meals group and all these issues. What’s inflicting all these additional cravings proper now and what are some methods we are able to begin to tackle that?

Brittany: Yeah, effectively, I imply, you really did precisely the precise factor while you began to note your triggers is you ask your self, “Okay, what’s inflicting this? What is that this reminding me of?” And keep in mind once I was breaking down the steps of what to do while you really feel triggered to eat meals is you ask your self, “Okay, stream again in time, how outdated am I proper now? What’s occurring? What’s my unconscious thoughts remembering?” So what is occurring is it’s triggering trauma. It’s triggering, and that is gonna be totally different for everyone. However, see, the factor is, we as people, we create coping mechanisms. Our brains are wonderful. I imply, the truth that people can undergo the quantity of stress, and nervousness, and trauma that, you recognize, we undergo and nonetheless be excessive functioning folks.

I imply, if you concentrate on a few of the worst issues which have occurred to you and the way you felt in that second, one of the wonderful issues in regards to the human thoughts is that we create this coping ability that pushes it manner all the way down to the again of our thoughts and it mainly says, “Okay, we’re gonna simply transfer on with life. We’re gonna fake like that didn’t occur.” Effectively, when one thing occurs that’s much like that factor that occurred, the reminiscence comes up and it goes, “Whoa, hazard. Bear in mind this occurred final time? Don’t let this factor occur once more.” And it offers us a warning signal. And often, the warning signal comes within the type of stress and nervousness, and that’s when folks will use meals to appease that stress and nervousness. And so, I’d say, for everyone it’s totally different.

, you shared a few of your coping mechanisms, which is like having every little thing so as and, you recognize, creating techniques that you simply management, proper? That’s one in all your coping expertise. , there’s folks that may, you recognize, buy groceries, you recognize, or folks…I do know one in all my coping expertise is journey. So I’m all the time, you recognize, making an attempt to go someplace new and journey someplace new. All of us have these alternative ways, or, you recognize, some folks actually wish to have every little thing organized, or, you recognize, some folks need every little thing messy, proper? So all of us have these methods and issues that we do to make ourselves really feel secure and really feel good. And we construct our lives round that. And generally we don’t know the emotions that we’re masking by doing this stuff till we are able to’t do these issues anymore.

So I feel that’s, for most individuals, that’s what’s taking place, is it’s citing emotions of, you recognize, not feeling secure, not having freedom. , I imply, all of us have felt unsafe in some unspecified time in the future in our lives. All of us, you recognize, have had our freedom taken away in some methods. , after we’re a child and our father or mother is telling us sure and no, proper? So this stuff are very primal feelings which can be developing for us. And, you recognize, nothing like this has ever occurred earlier than. So everybody’s acquired these traumas coming as much as the floor that they’re, you recognize, used to. And I do know quite a lot of my pals, they’re actually busy folks. They like actually busy packed schedules and so they wish to go, go, go, go, go on a regular basis. And, you recognize, that’s one other coping ability. So, all of the those who I do know that have been actually busy, that wish to go, go, go on a regular basis, that they had an actual battle, you recognize, with that, proper? The place, “Okay, now I can’t be busy on a regular basis, so all of those “Demons” got here again as much as the floor.” However see, should you’re not asking your self the precise questions, and also you don’t know the place to look, you’re simply gonna suppose, “Oh, I’m simply actually hungry proper now. Oh, I simply need a margarita for breakfast.”

That’s not really what’s taking place. What’s taking place is that you simply’re subconsciously being reminded of a time the place you felt unsafe or one thing was uncomfortable or scary to you, and that’s inflicting the stress and nervousness. That’s inflicting you to wanna, you recognize, have these behaviors and use these coping expertise. So should you don’t know the best way to ask the precise questions, then, you recognize, you’re simply gonna suppose, “Oh, okay, I simply have a bunch of cravings,” however that’s really not what’s taking place.

Katie: That makes a lot sense. So, for individuals who aren’t acquainted, stroll us by how the tapping particularly helps us to deal with these issues after which to launch them?

Brittany: Yeah. So, the hippocampus is an space of our mind that shops our recollections. And what we are able to see now with mind imaging gadgets is that when the recollections are unfavourable, we really see these little indentations within the hippocampus. So, I all the time describe the hippocampus like a sponge with a bunch of holes in it. So, you recognize, we’ve thousands and thousands of little indentations as a result of we’ve so many issues that occurred to us that, you recognize, have been unfavourable or, you recognize, made our physique really feel anxious or harassed. So what occurs is when your physique feels anxious or harassed, when one thing dangerous occurs, the amygdala, which is the physique’s combat or flight system, sounds an alarm and it makes us really feel dangerous. It makes us really feel harassed, or anxious, or scared, or indignant. And so, what’s taking place…And, you recognize, the amygdala tells your physique to really feel these feelings, proper?

So, what occurs is a foul reminiscence will get triggered, okay? You keep in mind, you recognize, like, for example, you recognize, any person’s saying one thing dangerous to you on a playground. Perhaps any person doesn’t say one thing dangerous to you, however they’ve, like, the identical tone of their voice or that particular person simply reminds you of the child that mentioned this factor to you. You’re not gonna put this collectively consciously, however it would set off the amygdala, the combat or flight response in your physique. So any person will say one thing to you and also you’ll really feel this stress and anxious feeling. Effectively, what tapping does is tapping really zeroes in on that reminiscence. So keep in mind the query that I requested is, okay, you push the meals away, return in time, how outdated are you proper now? What’s occurring? So that you really return and also you keep in mind that reminiscence, you skilled the reminiscence, you describe the reminiscence when you’re stimulating the acupressure factors.

And what occurs while you stimulate the acupressure factors when you’re fascinated by this dangerous factor that occurred is it sends a flood of serotonin to the mind, and it really severs the combat or flight response. So, you’ll be able to nonetheless take into consideration that dangerous reminiscence nevertheless it doesn’t make the alarm sign in your physique go off. So, any person can have, you recognize, that very same tone with you, however you’re not gonna keep in mind that it reminded you of, you recognize, any person on the playground otherwise you’re not gonna have an issue with it. Or, you recognize, I don’t know, mainly something…Persons are getting triggered on a regular basis.

So what occurs is, over time, while you use tapping increasingly more, is you’re mainly therapeutic your hippocampus which is like your reminiscence sponge. So after we go in and we take a look at what occurs while you use tapping is we’ll discover that these indentations really disappear. So the indentations are what tells your mind, tells your physique to launch the combat or flight response, activate the alarm. So after we use tapping it severs that connection, so you’ll be able to keep in mind dangerous issues which have occurred to you, nevertheless it’s virtually prefer it occurred any person else.

In truth, they are saying that, with those who have to go on the witness stand about issues which have occurred which can be, you recognize, traumatic, it’s identified inside our neighborhood that if they should give a superb, you recognize, testimonial that’s plausible, that they shouldn’t really faucet on their expertise since you turn into so disconnected from it. Like, once I was beginning inform my story, I’ve really been criticized for this as effectively. Once I began to inform my story, I’m going, “Effectively, my story occurred once I was 15. I used to be kicked out and I used to be homeless.” I say it prefer it’s, you recognize, so blasé, really easy. And, in fact, I’ve instructed the story a bunch, however I’ve additionally finished a lot tapping on it. It’s prefer it occurred to any person else or it’s prefer it occurred in a special lifetime. I don’t have any of the identical stress responses once I take into consideration that point than most individuals do.

In order that’s what’s so cool about this, is that, you recognize, individuals who have gone by actually difficult conditions, or, even should you haven’t, even should you simply had little issues that occurred to you, while you sever the alarm system, while you sever this response, it simply makes you much more relaxed. So that you’ll discover that you simply’re simply not so uptight. You don’t really feel so overwhelmed. You’re not harassed. You’re not anxious. , that’s type of the overarching, you recognize, change that occurs while you use tapping to heal your mind mainly is what’s taking place.

Katie: That makes a lot sense. And yeah, it’s fascinating. I’d not have most likely believed simply how profoundly that may change till I skilled it. And so, now I point out, you recognize, to lots of people as a result of, like I mentioned, I felt like I went to battle with myself for therefore, so lengthy. And I used to be preventing on the fallacious fronts, mainly. Like, I used to be preventing an enemy on one aspect and the precise root of it was someplace completely totally different. And that’s that trauma aspect. And the interior aspect is so highly effective that you simply actually, like I’ve mentioned it so many occasions, that you would be able to’t combat your manner by that. You possibly can’t punish your self skinny. You possibly can’t hate your self wholesome. Like, you actually do have to do this interior work. And the great thing about it’s, as a result of there are triggers, we’ve the chance to do this, and to set a superb instance, hopefully, for our youngsters. You’ve talked about that you simply work with so much, I do know you’ve labored with 1000’s and 1000’s of girls on this and serving to them overcome it in several methods. Are you able to speak about a few of the applications you will have for that? And, in fact, I’ll make certain they’re linked within the present notes as effectively.

Brittany: Yeah, positive. So, I imply, one of many issues that I’ll simply give away as a free present is, the approach that helps folks cease emotional consuming, the one which I used to be describing with all of the questions, I share that in a free video. So if folks need that approach, I give all of it away without spending a dime. They will undergo the method. , folks all the time will write us feedback on social media, and emails, and stuff saying how life-changing it’s. So, that they will get at emotionaleatingexpert.com. And you may, you recognize, ship all of the hyperlinks and stuff.

However, yeah, you recognize, our essential program is an intensive six-month program, the place we mainly go in and we heal the entire traumas that trigger additional weight. So, you recognize, most individuals take a look at it as like an entire mind reset. , and everyone has totally different traumas, however what I discovered is I discovered a sample with individuals who, you recognize, the place the trauma exhibits up on their physique, I’ve mainly discovered the system of why it does that. So I do know the precise the inquiries to ask. I do know the place to search for the traumas. , lots of people will say, “Effectively, I don’t even know the place to look. I don’t, like, you recognize, I don’t know what occurred to me. How can I do know if I don’t keep in mind it?” That is what we cowl. I even have coaches that work one-on-one with folks.

And that’s the easiest way to do that. In the event you wanna actually, actually go deep and heal, those who get one of the best outcomes are those that work with a coach, and so they go actually deep, and decide to it. , folks will say to me once they’re on the opposite aspect of it, that they did extra work in six months of working with me than they’ve their complete lives of doing remedy and all the opposite various strategies that they’ve tried. And I work with folks which can be, you recognize, PhDs which can be, you recognize, very, very, you recognize, extremely accredited those who have finished plenty of issues and studied quite a lot of modalities.

And I all the time hear that suggestions. So, you recognize, for me, that is what I used to be born to do. I used to be simply utterly obsessive about fixing this drawback. And, you recognize, I’m actually comfortable to say that I discovered the system and the components. Six months would possibly sound like a very long time to any person, however while you’ve struggled with one thing for therefore lengthy to your complete life, you recognize, what’s six months, proper? As a result of one individuals are on the opposite aspect of it, and, you recognize, we’ve tracked folks now for 10 years which have graduated from 12 months 1, the issue doesn’t come again. So, it’s everlasting. It’s everlasting change endlessly.

So, you recognize, I all the time inform folks, it’s not enjoyable. It’s arduous work. It’s not like a bunch of optimistic affirmations that make you are feeling good. You’re purging. It’s troublesome, heavy stuff, nevertheless it’s a secure area. , we’ve wonderful, wonderful assist. We’ve got wonderful coaches. The opposite women in this system too, we introduce them, we’ve one thing referred to as the Buddy System, the place we introduce you to different folks. And we all the time hear simply how, like, wonderful the brand new connections are and the brand new friendships which can be shaped. We’ve got women which have met their greatest pals, you recognize, within the class. So, it’s a small neighborhood, nevertheless it’s a extremely tight-knit neighborhood of girls which can be scuffling with the identical issues and going about therapeutic it in the identical methods as effectively. So, yeah, that’s what…And so we discuss extra about that program at bittanywatkins.com or you’ll be able to go on to the data at thinkandthin.com.

Katie: Excellent. And like I mentioned, these hyperlinks will probably be within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm so that you guys can discover them simply. And I feel that, like, circles again completely to the start of the dialog of specializing in the truth that, on the finish of the day, it’s really, such as you mentioned, not in regards to the weight reduction in any respect. If something, like releasing fats is a greater focus. However even past that, it truly is in regards to the interior aspect, and feeling at peace, and feeling calm and cozy in our our bodies as a result of it’s our physique, not as a result of it must be, or look, or measure a sure manner. So, to the those who introduced up that time, I feel that’s so vital and I’m not advocating anybody ever being a sure dimension or doing this for seems causes. I really feel like this was such an vital matter to speak about as a result of the burden loss for me was a aspect impact of way more vital work. And I’d 100 occasions once more select to do this interior work and to really feel the peace I really feel now even when it didn’t result in the identical bodily modifications as a result of that was only a aspect impact. And the liberty of how I really feel now was price that work 100 occasions over. And I couldn’t comprehend how dramatic that trauma hyperlink was till I skilled it. And I’m positive you hear these tales from girls on a regular basis.

Brittany: Oh, 100%. I imply, if I might give this a brand new identify, I’d name it the Heal Your Life Program or like Change Your Life Program as a result of, you recognize, we don’t concentrate on the burden. The burden, similar to you mentioned, it’s a aspect impact. Like, that’s not even like what I’m obsessed with. I like serving to girls free themselves and turn into a lot happier and complete and get again onto the trail that they have been meant to be on. As a result of what occurs while you’re scuffling with, you recognize, additional weight is that you’ve, you recognize, poor vanity, you’re saying nasty issues to your self. You, often, you recognize, don’t have nice relationships or, you recognize, your relationship along with your husband isn’t that nice. Or, you recognize, you’re not courting and also you’re single otherwise you’re not going out. So there’s all these areas of your life that aren’t feeling good, which can be feeling unfulfilled.

So, it’s not that…The funniest factor is that after we get to the tip of the six-month program, it’s not that everyone’s at their purpose weight as a result of that’s really not the case. Normally, folks will begin to launch weight after the six months is over. All people on the finish of this system, they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I’m a lot happier now. I’m a lot freer now.” A variety of them even say, “I don’t even care if I lose the burden. I’m so comfortable. I’m so grateful that I really feel this good. I don’t even care in regards to the weight anymore.” So, it’s actually, actually cool. , type of regardless of the factor is that the ladies are scuffling with is often what, you recognize, they’ll shift as effectively. So, you recognize, quite a lot of girls will, you recognize, earn more money or, like I mentioned, have higher relationships or really feel happier. Perhaps they’ve been scuffling with melancholy or feeling anxious or possibly they’ll be impressed to observe their ardour as an alternative of being in a company profession, stuff like that we see occur so much.

And it’s simply that a part of it for me is so rewarding. Like I mentioned, I imply, the burden loss is just not the factor that motivates me. It’s seeing all of the change that occurs and the way a lot happier and empowered girls are as soon as they launch all these things. It’s mainly like having, you recognize, a unclean garbage can in your mind that’s, you recognize, affecting every little thing in your life. And while you take out the trash, it’s like every little thing is clear, and new, and recent. And, you recognize, you simply have a brand new lease on life. You’ve a brand new outlook on life. And that’s, you recognize, one of the best half for me.

Katie: Yeah, completely agree. One other query I like to ask on the finish of interviews is that if there’s a guide or a variety of books which have had a dramatic affect in your life, and in that case, what they’re and why?

Brittany: Oh, I keep in mind what guide I mentioned final time so I’m not gonna say that one, though that one was nice. The opposite one I actually appreciated was “An Inconvenient Fact About Relationships.” So, I don’t know, I’ve been exploring relationships for some time ever since I acquired divorced 5 years in the past. And this guide, it was written in such a special manner that it actually, actually gave me a brand new outlook on relationships and actually helped open my thoughts as much as, you recognize, what’s attainable and helped me see additionally what I used to be struggling in with my marriage. It helped unlock quite a lot of the explanations that I used to be struggling. Oh, one other particular person to observe, if, you recognize, anyone needs assist with males, and courting, and relationships, which I do know is just not what we’re speaking about as we speak. However all my girlfriends all the time ask me for courting recommendation, and I suppose I’m fairly good at it, is Allison Armstrong. She has so many nice on-line audiobooks about understanding girls, understanding males. These have simply been life-changing for me, to not simply perceive males but additionally to know myself and the best way that I function simply, you recognize, in a female manner.

Katie: I adore it. I’ll put hyperlinks to these within the present notes as effectively. Brittany, thanks for being right here and sharing once more. I feel that is one thing, like we talked about, that’s effervescent up for lots of people proper now. Such as you mentioned, we’re all dealing with issues that type of we’ve by no means needed to face earlier than. And the great thing about it’s, with the precise mindset, that’s really an exquisite alternative to deal with quite a lot of this stuff. We’re simply being given an entire lot of those lecturers this 12 months. So I like that you simply’re serving to folks discover methods to work by and to be taught from and to profit from all of those stressors that we don’t have any management over proper now. So thanks to your work and to your time.

Brittany: Yeah, completely. Thanks for having me, Katie.

Katie: And thanks as all the time for listening, for sharing your most precious useful resource, your time, with each of us as we speak. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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