Males’s Journal’s On a regular basis Warrior With Mike Sarraille is a brand new podcast that evokes people to stay extra fulfilling lives by having conversations with disrupters and excessive performers in all walks of life. In episode 23, we spoke with Drew Brees, former NFL quarterback who performed for 20 seasons.

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Mike Sarraille:

Welcome to the Males’s Journal On a regular basis Warrior podcast. We name this fast fireplace. We’ve bought a particular visitor at present, Drew Brees, who ought to want no introduction, however Tremendous Bowl champ, 20 years within the NFL, offensive participant, a number of instances broke dozens of passing yard data, and now settling into the dad function, which might be his most essential function in life. Drew, in the event you didn’t comprehend it, you went to the identical highschool as my spouse, uh, Westlake, appropriate?

Drew Brees:

Ah, yeah. Okay. All proper.

Mike Sarraille:

So we’re right here in Westlake. We’re gonna leap proper into it and we’re gonna begin straightforward and get just a little tougher. How do you begin your mornings?

Drew Brees:

Learn the Bible with a cup of espresso.

Mike Sarraille:

No kidding. Okay. All proper. I mentioned they’re straightforward.

Drew Brees:

Non-negotiable. That’s how I begin day-after-day.

Mike Sarraille:

I really like that phrase. Okay. So what are your key habits? These issues that you just do day-after-day, moreover your routine within the morning?

Drew Brees:

Properly, I, I like to get some form of a exercise and now that I’m executed taking part in soccer, it’s really form of enjoyable. Trigger I get to alter that up, you recognize, that could be going for a hike that could be mountain biking. That could be simply, you recognize, getting out paddling, get up paddle, play some pickle ball, um, you recognize, simply no matter I wish to do. That’s uh, you recognize, I’ve that flexibility now

Mike Sarraille:

And also you really went proper into the, uh, the following query. So it’s at all times fascinating publish skilled profession. What are your exercise objectives and, and eating regimen appear like, uh, now.

Drew Brees:

Yeah. , um, from a eating regimen perspective, I, I, I’ve at all times, I’ve at all times tried to take a quite common sense eating regimen method, proper. Which is, uh, eat issues that come out of the bottom or attempt to eat natural as a lot as doable. Don’t overeat, you recognize, eat once I’m hungry. Cuz that’s my physique telling me, Hey, I’m hungry. I would like some gas. Um, however then when it tells you you’re full don’t overeat, pack it up, put it within the fridge, cuz likelihood is in two hours, you’re gonna be hungry once more. And you may simply go forward and end it then. Um, you recognize, don’t, don’t eat previous seven or eight o’clock at evening. Um, attempt to get se not less than seven and a half hours of sleep. Uh, trigger that’s, that’s form of my, my rhythm. That’s, that’s just about it proper there. That’s quite simple.

Mike Sarraille:

<snigger>. Are, are you continue to using a coach?

Drew Brees:

Um, effectively my, my coach Todd Durkin was like my mentor, one in every of my mentors and actually. We’re very like friends and good buddies as we’re, you recognize, mentor and mentee, however I’d say we nonetheless get collectively, however now we’ve extra life conversations, you recognize, and fatherhood conversations versus, you recognize, get me able to exit and kick butt on the soccer area conversations.

Mike Sarraille:

And with that. Drew, you spent 20 seasons within the NFL, which is simply…only a few folks try this. What sort of mindset does it take for somebody not solely to achieve that stage, however to remain at that stage for therefore lengthy,

Drew Brees:

You, you need to always really feel such as you’re chasing one thing. Um, you, you need to really feel like there nonetheless is room for enchancment. Um, you’re always on this race to enhance and to remain forward, um, you recognize, look you there. There’s I feel there’s that mentality that when, when, when you’ve reached the highest that, you recognize, all people’s, you recognize, form of chasing you at that time. However to me, I, I at all times, at all times wished to have one thing that I used to be chasing and I used to be, I used to be competing towards myself greater than I used to be competing towards anyone or the rest. And so each off season there was this course of, um, name it, you recognize, the season ends and January, February, after which, you recognize, take a couple of month off simply to spend time with household and clear your head and recharge your battery. After which when March got here round, it was like, all proper, sit down, pen and paper aims, the place do I must get higher? How am I gonna get there? I circle up with my mentors, which I had two of them, Tom Home and Todd Durkin. And it’s like, all proper, right here’s our aims. Right here’s how we get there. Let’s get to work.

Mike Sarraille:

Ooh. So little measure. What issues in self-reflection that’s completely. I’ve seen that’s frequent theme amongst excessive performers like your self. We stay in a social media world the place everybody simply highlights their successes, not my spouse, yelling at me and presumably throwing, uh, objects from the kitchen, uh, at my head. Uh, however we imagine that failure is simply as essential as success. The truth is, it’s a part of success. What do you take into account to be one in every of your largest failures and what did you study from it?

Drew Brees:

Oh man. , um, effectively let, let me offer you a unique instance as a result of that is related to final week. So my children have gotten into skim boarding, proper? Which, um, I most likely spent at least 10 hours over the past three days on the seaside, simply watching them skim board. And you recognize, I imply, you fall nearly each time you skim board, proper? Like in the event you don’t catch it fairly proper, if the sand catches the board or rapidly, you recognize, you get an excellent experience going, however then now you’re gonna hit the wave and also you’re gonna fall. So actually it’s this fixed strategy of fall, get again up; fall, get again up; fall, get again up. And I feel as mother and father, you recognize, you wish to consolation your children on a regular basis.

You wish to attempt to make issues, you recognize, as I don’t wanna say straightforward as doable, however such as you, you wish to streamline it for ’em. Proper. And at instances it’s exhausting, cuz it’s like counterintuitive, however it’s like, you need to sit again and simply let ’em fail. Let ’em fail, fail, fail, fail, get again up, fail, get again up, fail. Proper. I can’t inform you like 10 hours of skim board. You’re actually failing nearly each time. And in some unspecified time in the future you gotta get again up and say like, I wanna strive once more. However like that has been the best factor cuz you then watch their development get higher and higher and higher. After which the boldness develop confidence develop. Proper. They usually’re feeding off one another, they’re competing with one another and I’m like, man, like that’s form of a microcosm for all times proper there. Like that’s a terrific life analogy. Um, in order that’s, that’s like that’s I feel what I’m I study as a lot from my children each day. Identical to placing myself in these positions as effectively.

Mike Sarraille:

They virtually remind you of sure attributes or, or ideas that, you recognize, we are able to study from these youthful from us and, and resiliency is a good attribute to construct inside your youngsters to organize ’em for all times. All proper. So what are these one to a few keys to success? These non-negotiables that you just adopted all through your life that normally end in distinctive outcomes?

Drew Brees:

Yeah. , um, these, so I feel the way in which that you just begin your day, I feel is one thing that must be an absolute non-negotiable and you recognize, that could be completely different for everybody. For me, it really is getting up within the morning, getting a cup of espresso and simply having, uh, 20 minutes of quiet time the place I can get within the phrase, learn my Bible, um, uh, possibly pay attention to some encouraging phrases of one in every of my non secular mentors or no matter it could be, however that simply lays the muse for the day. And if that doesn’t occur, then I simply don’t really feel proper. ? And in order that’s why it has turning into a non-negotiable that is what I do. Um, that is who I’m. And um, after which once more, I, I feel that that, that additionally places me in the fitting state of mind to be one of the best husband. I will be one of the best father that I will be one of the best, you recognize, associate. I will be, you recognize, no matter it’s that, you recognize, are the, that’s form of the itinerary for the day or the construction for the day. I feel it simply places me able the place I’ve, I’ve form of set my, my ethical compass, you recognize, for the day and that’s how I’m gonna select to, um, you recognize, deal with others work together with others.

Mike Sarraille:

Morning affirmations are highly effective, so is consistency. I like it. Uh, so drew, once you look again at your life, when all is claimed and executed in your remaining, remaining moments, how will you identify in the event you’ve lived a lifetime of affect and goal,

Drew Brees:

Man, that’s, that’s an excellent one. Um, you try for it. Look, you try for it day-after-day. Um, and you recognize, that’s, that’s, that’s the, you recognize, folks have requested me a lot about retirement and you recognize, how how’s the transition been and you recognize, you, and, and you may attest to this too, proper? With, with the road of labor that you just had been in, you’re so targeted on being the perfect which you could be at, um, an NFL quarterback, you recognize, not simply from, from a productiveness perspective, however a management perspective and main others and serving to others and, you recognize, pulling the crew collectively, pulling completely different personalities collectively to perform a mission or a aim, um, or an goal. And so rapidly, you, you step out of that surroundings, um, it’s like, wow, I’ve, I’ve, I’ve targeted a lot on success inside this realm.

Drew Brees:

, what’s the following stage or the following chapter appear like. And you recognize, there’s, there’s there those that have talked about this and I’ve heard so much about that is form of going from that path of success to significance, proper? And it’s, how can I take what I’ve discovered, the knowledge, the experiences now cross that on to others, depart an affect, um, depart this world a greater place, um, set issues up, you recognize, higher for the long run. Um, and lift my children the fitting means in order that they will exit with the identical mentality. , there’s simply a lot of what I take into consideration now’s affect and significance and there’s a lot work to be executed. And I feel that’s what motivates me and evokes me day-after-day is that there’s a lot want on the market there’s a lot work that must be executed and you may’t simply exit and attain it suddenly. ? So there undoubtedly is like this, um, you recognize, you set these aims and, and you recognize, these OKRs and it’s like, all proper, let’s go, let’s go, you recognize, deal with this one, one activity at a time, one problem at a time,

Mike Sarraille:

One, one step at a time. So we prefer to say, so our motto right here on the on a regular basis warrior is, get stuff executed, make stuff occur, do all of it once more tomorrow. So I perceive you’re working in a brand new, uh, marketing campaign with Great Clips: Back to School. Inform me why that is so essential to you.

Drew Brees:

Properly, this, this jogs my memory of once I was a child and a few of the particular moments that I had with my dad. Proper. Which was that getting up early on a Saturday morning and going to getting a haircut collectively, you recognize, there was the, there’s a bonding expertise that takes place with that. , the drive there, the drive residence, you recognize, sitting within the, within the chair. Um, and particularly as you consider again to high school, cuz you recognize, look you come off of a summer season and, and also you’re enthusiastic about going again to high school, you’re enthusiastic about seeing your pals once more on the identical time. Perhaps you’re just a little bit nervous, you recognize, like, ah, you recognize, did I, did I get greater? Did I get taller? , or are they gonna be greater than me? Like, am I gonna make the, the, the crew, you recognize, after we trout for soccer this yr, you recognize, and I’m going to a brand new college, you recognize, I imply, there’s simply all this stuff for, I feel children, you recognize, identical to the pressures and the challenges.

Drew Brees:

And there was simply one thing about going and getting that haircut, preparing for college. That was like a confidence enhance. , it’s like, man, I’m gonna look good. I’m gonna, you recognize, step into college and you recognize, form of like, you recognize, be, be a frontrunner, be the man like, you recognize, um, and it’s a brand new yr, you recognize, form of a factor, you recognize? And, and likewise I feel simply the bonding expertise. So I do not forget that with my dad and now I’ve bought three boys. And so, you recognize, to, to form of simply sit and watch their interactions and be capable to have these interactions with them too. I imply, these are, these are particular moments.

Mike Sarraille:

So weekly haircut haircuts with the boys, <snigger>, that’s a behavior as effectively.

Drew Brees:

I really like haircuts, haircuts. Yeah. Haircuts with the boys, you recognize, and, and I really feel like there’s, there’s one for each event too, there’s again to high school, however then there’s like preparing for the championship recreation, you recognize, and like flag soccer or basketball or one thing like that. You’ve gotta have a contemporary, you will have a contemporary lower, you recognize, there’s so much that goes into that.

Mike Sarraille:

Properly, Drew, uh, personally, thanks to your time. Thanks for all of the leisure as we had been abroad on fight deployments, watching you play and particularly from one skilled to a different, thanks to your religion in the truth that you stood by your ideas, man. Extremely respect you.